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Friday, December 16, 2005
 

THE WOMEN'S CONFERENCE

My reflections on the women's conference, that I went to back in mid-Nov, will now be more narcissistic than ever.  I'm sure I remember more about what I thought about (as a result of what people said), than what the speakers actually had to say. 

I did peruse my notes, however, and now I remember why I haven't posted about it.  There was a whole lotta stuff said.  Lest the topic become too large and unweildy, I'll just tell you the things that struck me right off the bat.

First,  I have some baggage.  Call it spiritual baggage, denominational baggage, whatever.  I imagine we actually all have SOME.  When you sit to listen to someone speak, your receptiveness is colored by your affiliation, or lack of affiliation with SOMETHING.  I know that's vague, but I had to consciously strip away my PCA-listening ears.  And just hear what people had to say.

I guess I should define my PCA (Presbyterian Church in America) baggage.  The PCA is the denomination I was raised in.  I share our pastors sentiments, when he says, "The PCA is a mess, but it's the best mess I know."

Sometimes when speakers present a list, I can feel myself tuning out, before they've begun.  This isn't necessarily fair, as a list may be a good way to organize what they have to say.  But the gospel has become more condensed in my mind, as I've gotten older.  It makes me want to strip away all of the "6 Steps to Godly Living," or whatever the instruction may be.  There's really only one step, right?  Depend on Jesus more.  He is the only righteousness.

So the first speaker had me re-tuning the dial in my mind.  Hers was a list about the most effective ways to have time alone with God every day.  "The time should be the 'first fruits of the harvest' of your day.  Heros of the Bible sought God early and earnestly."  All true.  She talked about Jesus waking early in the morning to pray.  Certainly, I can't argue with His perfect example.  But the final list erked me.  One of it's points was, "refuse to miss a day."  She talked about little charts for keeping track of the days that you've spent in the Word.

Here's what I'm wondering: Am I just a desperate night-owl looking for an exception to a generally good rule?  Maybe.  But in my stage of life, the "refuse to miss a day," and "keep track on a chart" plan of execution sounds like a recipe for disaster.  When Baby #5 comes along, and I'm in a state of sleep-deprivation, I don't think I want to see what my chart looks like.  And I'm not saying that my life is so much harder than everyone else's.  I'm saying just the opposite.  Isn't tracking quiet times on a chart, just asking to feel defeated and bogged down by guilt?  Or maybe not. . .

Maybe that sort of thing appeals to your meticulous nature.  But won't you feel inclined to give yourself a mental, gold star for the day, when you see all those checked boxes?  Is that what Christ wants from us?  A sense of self-righteousness, because we 'refused to miss a day.'  I don't think so.  I think he wants our eyes on Jesus, who was perfectly righteous for us.  He knows that even on the checked box days, I fail miserably to love Him with all my heart, soul, mind and strength.  And if you think you've got that one covered, how about loving your neighbor as yourself?

Anyway, I digress.  I think I've fully captured the sense of ambivalence that I felt, after listening to the first speaker.  Don't misunderstand me.  I think obedience is important.  Quiet times are good.  I should certainly have more of them.

. . .I'll talk more tomorrow about the other speakers and other aspects of my spiritual baggage. :)

 

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A star chart for God time? Kind of makes it like just another chore, no?
Posted 12/16/2005 11:57 PM by transvestite_rabbit Xanga True Member - reply

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Amen Sista
Posted 12/16/2005 11:59 PM by NoLongerFluffy - reply

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I'll add the "Gold Star for my Quiet Time" chart right next to the "Exercised for an hour" chart right above my "ate my vegetables" chart which is in line with my "drank my 8 glasses of water" chart underneath my "made my bed" chart and my "made breakfast for the family" chart. Of course now I read I also need to get those dairy servings in so I'll be making that chart first. After I shower and get out of my jammies....
Posted 12/17/2005 12:03 AM by NoLongerFluffy - reply

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Hate to say this, but if I gave the Lord my "first fruits...of my day" by having quiet time in the mornings, I would NOT be giving Him my best.  My best is late at night, when I am awake, alert, and much more able to concentrate because the noisy little people are in bed.  I DO ask Him to make His presence known to me, and to help me with certain of my besetting sins at the beginning of the day, but we do our best communicating in the quiet of the evening, when I can give Him my full attention.  Otherwise, He would be competing with the demands of busy children, the grogginess I wake up with, my natural desire to go back to sleep for just a few more minutes, and the mental to-do list that begins each day.  Sorry, but I have to strongly disagree that EVERYONE should have quiet time in the morning. 
Posted 12/17/2005 12:28 AM by DiniHJ - reply

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It seems that, on so many levels, we've reduced "Christianity" or even faith down to a system, a science, complete with, gold stars. I see it in so many different things in the church culture, and it just blows me away. We are called to relationship, not ritual, therefore, why on earth should we be surprised when our relationship is different than the person in the next pew over.

All that to say that I think you've made excellent points!
Posted 12/17/2005 12:40 AM by KnightOwl121 - reply

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I was going to write a post about almost this very same thing. Seems you got to it first.

I grew up in the Catholic Church. I was the only one. All my family is...I'm not even sure, it's a mix. None of them practice so it does't really matter, but anyway...

The thing that bothers me about some organized religions is what it does to children.

I was told, growing up that I was going to Hell for not going to Mass on Sunday. That it was on the same list of sins as murder.

Clearly, I do not believe that.

I think that the most important thing about your spirituality is that you're happy with it. That's it's right for you. I don't believe there is one "right religion".

And as far as this chart stuff goes...are ya kidding me? I refuse, absolutly REFUSE to make my relationship with God a chore. I WANT to have a relationship with God and if I miss a day or so here and there, he's not going to leave. Just like I won't.

I think honestly, the very best way we can love and worship God is to respect our bodies and his creation. I think in loving our neighbors, especially those who are hardest to love, we're loving God. If you think about it, what would be the purpose of being kind to others who are cruel to us? What would be the drive? We do it b/c "two wrongs don't make a right" b/c it's "What Jesus would do" and b/c it's one of the most natural laws in the universe.

What better way to honor God then to honor every one of his children?

And I think THAT in itself is praise. And I think that a lot of people are closer to God then they think. 

And also, I REFUSE to believe that God, at least MY God would be angry if I forgot to drop in and say hello one day- I think He gets it.

My God is my friend. And it's hard to see that so many people are in this cycle of worship that turns God into a chore, or something to be feared. I see so often that a relationship with God is really nothing more than a dictatorship. Do it b/c you want to, not b/c you're forced.

Isn't God supposed to be love? And when you tell someone that you love them, doesn't that mean that you'd never hurt them on purpose? And by having a relationship that is basically a one-sided worship session, isn't that a form of control which robs us of our free will that God LOVINGLY promised to us? And robbing us of our free will, dictating our lives and forcing it to revolve around him...well isn't that harmful and also a sin?

My God wouldn't do that.

No charts for me thank you. My God knows me well enough to know that he's with me where ever, whenever...even if I'm giving him the silent treatment. That's what unconditional love is. It's not charts, or gifts or reminders... 

It's faith. 

And with that mini-blog on YOUR blog, I'll say goodnight now. Hope I haven't offended you in anyway (or other people reading this) it certainly wasn't my intention.

Posted 12/17/2005 2:22 AM by crissie225 - reply

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Beautiful. Yes, our eyes on Jesus more. We could ALL do a little more of that. Thanks for the reminder.
Posted 12/17/2005 2:29 AM by girl_in_pictures - reply

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We are suppose to meditate on Him constantly, so couldn't the chart just be one box with a check mark in it?
Posted 12/17/2005 7:14 AM by Tincanman - reply

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That idea is definitely taking what should be a relationship and turning it into a chore. I don't ever want my time with Him to be something to check off and feel self-righteous (or alternatively, guilty) about.
Posted 12/17/2005 9:31 AM by HairlineFracture - reply

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I'm with you on this.  I imagine if we were hungering and thirsting after righteousness, we wouldn't need to keep charts about it.  No one has to remind me to eat every day (or that I already have, several times  :P).
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I love Tincanmans comment.  Rather than a chart, a journal is nice.  You can keep prayer requests and note answered prayers, remembering to thank him.  They are fun to go back and read when you wonder why in the world that problem seemed like such a big deal at the time....God took care of it so nicely.  I know I need more quiet time with Jesus too, but we never tire of each other's company during the day...regardless of the time, He is there.  Even when the day is hectic and busy and noisy.....I can know that he calms my heart. 
Posted 12/17/2005 10:29 PM by gandywhite - reply

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I grew up in the Mennonite Church and remember being made to feel that if I didn't read my Bible at least 30 minutes per day,  I just wasn't in a close relationship with God.  Now I know that that was a type of bondage and mind trick of satan.  There are days that I haven't had the oppertunity to formally sit down with God and study His word, but often those days have passed by in more of a continuing conversational pray with God.  At the end of such a day, I often find myself more in tune with God and feel more blessed by Him than the days I do the formal thing.  Is it that when I do have a set time, I feel like I have done it for today and forget about it?  Or is it that I need to be doing something different in those times?  I'm not sure.  I do feel that spending time in Scripture is important, but I am certain that a check list would only serve to frustrate me and make me feel like a failure in my relationship with God. 
Posted 12/17/2005 10:51 PM by mujerfeliz Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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Better than a chart or a daily time, I think I will tie a ribbon on my steering wheel and talk to god a little each time I see it...after all I live in my van, so I see my steering wheel a LOT and have plenty of quiet time at red lights. :) I definitely can see where a chart would be added stress in any mom's life. Too many other lists in this house it would surely get lost.
Posted 12/18/2005 10:28 PM by t4tots Xanga Premium Member - reply

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I grew up in the PCA, too... went to one of the women's conferences in Atlanta several years ago, but that was before I was married or had any kids, and I don't remember if anything like that was talked about or what I thought about it... however, having two kids now, I definitely agree that checklists are the last thing we need! I posted on similar stuff last week, and you might find the following links helpful: http://girltalk.blogs.com/girltalk/2005/12/do_what_you_can.html and http://www.biblicalspirituality.org/youcan.html.
Posted 12/19/2005 10:56 AM by martha_martha - reply

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we're currently PCUSA - reformed -   but as an adult, i 'grew up' in my faith in a non-denominational church whose authority structure was very strict and legalistic.  if ever you were asked how you were doing, and then shared a struggle - the VERY first question out of the leader's mouth was - "how is your quiet time?" - which was quickly followed by "how often, how long, etc."  and if we read the right kind of books with the approved authors (whichever was the most popular book/bandwagon of that season, etc.  there's a balance in there that i think legalists seem to miss, at times.  and we can never forget that the Lord gives extra measures of grace to those that have young ones.  (that's my paraphrase of Isaiah 40:11.Just so you don't have to pull out your concordance - the literal text says "He tends his flock like a shepherd: He gathers the lambs in his arms and carries them close to his heart; he gently leads those that have young."   in this season of my life with only two children (!!) i tend towards the Brother Lawrence style of constant conversation - and not just GET ME THROUGH THIS but more recently PLEASE BE WITH ME IN THIS.  
Posted 12/22/2005 2:26 PM by powva_ladybug - reply


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