How can this be justified? How can either side ever justify the horrors they have visited upon each other? How can we ever justify the horrors we have visited upon the world? “When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.”
It's heartbreaking. It is so hard not to lose faith in us ignorant humans. You do a great service by being inspiring and positive because that's what it takes.
Amen, Jimi!
my stomach is in knots right now looking at this...I despise george bush.
It can never ever in any way be justified
May I ask what that top picture is? I'm kind of scared to ask but looking at it I just can't tell what's going on with it.
*sigh*
It is the body of a young child, with his pacifier still linked to his collar. He was pulled from the rubble of his home after suffocating overnight. They could not clear the rubble because the bombing did not stop. It is a child.
He looks like he was cemented to death... or like, petrified? The best example I can give you is that this reminds me of what happened to some of the people of Pompei (sp?) after the volcano blew and covered everyone in ash and stuff. Is that what happened to the little kid?
It breaks my heart. I cry when I see the pictures. I really do.
I am crying...
Hi! Hope you have a great week. --Rachel
Amen.
Makes me sooooooo sad.
Hi Jen! Its megan your lovely neighbor...glad you guys made it back safe from vacation. I have to do a journal for my class so i am doing it through this so my prof can just come on and read it, so i figured i would say hello! Love your entry today btw, but you know how i feel about such things
One more thing just to add to the comments, i have pictures of the people from pompeii, that photo of the child is much more horrific than the people encased in the ash from pompeii. I will try to upload some for you to have a comparison
The topmost picture looks almost exactly what I remember seeing in my Latin textbook...the people (including children) surprised by Mt. Vesuvius when it erupted in Pompeii in 79 A.D.
The Romans thought the gods were angry with them. What then, are these people thinking? What reason are they formulating as to why this is happening to them?
That picture, that is what I understand to be the true meaning of horror.
These pictures are taken from the battles between Israel and Lebanon, right?
Yes, specifically the attack on Qana.
Absolutely horrific. Why? It's all so senseless.
A grade 8 teacher from Dan's school left here to become the principal of an international school in Beirut. They arrived just days before the bombing started. We were all so relieved to learn that he and his family made it safely toSyria. In a recent interview with our local paper, he said that they hope to be able to return to Beirut. Personally, I'm so optimistic about that one.
It is horrible. They are fighting a Biblical war. I hate to say it, but to them it is neccessary. BTW, soontoshrink I don't think this is George Bush's fault. This was a long time coming.
As a Jewish girl, I will try to interject a bit of understanding here. I personally know an Israeli soldier that was killed. He was the son of my rabbi. He was only a year older than I, twenty five. He left a widowed wife and a two year old daughter that will never know him.
I stand behind Israel. I stand behind my Jewish people and I am thankful that Bush is trying to let Israel defend, yes I said DEFEND, themselves despite enormous world pressure. Most Americans can not even begin to understand this war. They have not the capability. Let us not forget that Israel was ATTACKED by Hezbollah first, an UNPROVOKED attack. Their insurgents invaded Israel, pulling Israeli children from their school buses and shooting them one by one, kidnapping Israeli soldiers and firing rockets into residential areas. What is Israel supposed to do, sit back and weigh it's diplomatic options? Would America just sit back if military insurgents fired rockets from Mexico into Texas suburbs, rushed into Texas cities to drag our children off their schoolbuses and shoot them in the head one by one, leaving them in the street to die? Would we as Americans "talk peace" with a terrorist military group that has the capability to drag children off their school bus and shoot them one by one? The Hezbollah shamelessly hide their fighters and their rockets in residential areas of Lebanon. That is the point. Using civilians as human shields in war is an international war crime and one that Hezbollah is expert at.
You know, the world tried to "appease" and "make peace" with Hitler as well. When will it dawn on us that you can not appease murdering madmen? To forget history is to let it repeat itself. How many peace treaties must be broken by the Arab world before the world realizes that they mean no peace for Israel? Israel believes in peace as do the Jewish people. If we did not, we would not have tried so very desperately for the last fifty years to achieve it. Is fifty years of broken peace treaties against Israel still not enough to justify it's right to defense? Israel and the Jewish nation has been fighting for their country since Israel was given to the Jews after the Holocaust and WWII. And could you dare so you would not react the same as Israel? America would go to war in a heartbeat if the repeated travesties that Israel has had to endure were cast upon us, but of course then it would be justified, yes? For then it would be our own dying, our own children lying in the road to die instead of some foreign screen shot flickering by on a news report.
As I said, both sides have committed atrocities. Hezbollah is the problem, not those children nor the Israeli children.
I know you are very close to this situation, but I can only respond with my heart. I do not just see the pictures, I read news from many outlets. This will not end until both sides put down their arms.
It's sad and wrong... for all the world, not just the Jews or Americans or Muslims. It's just so horribly sad.
Oh Jenny,, i am crying,,, witheverything going on with Sheilah for the last couple of weeks and i have been amiss with the news,, im off to BBC and CNN... Children no matter what,, are just that children, they should be loved and nurtured..... hugs
me and mom talk about how a god could let that happen to innocent children. i just dont understand. i loved your vacation story, as miserable as it may seem now, it will be HILARIOUS in about 12 years. we had a vacation similar to that in which i got the stomach flu, the dog diarrhead in the car, my sister vomited the entire car ride hom, and then my dog ran away on the side of the highway. THEN, (it was christmas eve), my dad bought us a cat and the cat shat under my dad's seat. the car was outrageously disgusting. it was horrible then, but its really funny to tell now
there is a fundamental ethical premise that is often overlooked by our mind dominated, temporally misaligned, egoic culture.
The prime ethic
if we would allow it
Is that crux which arises as a commonality at the heart of many of today's seemingly complex issue's
be they either individaul personal issues or larger cultural situations as in this war
This re-emerging prime directive... points to something like this..
Commit no deed or action, in the present moment, that has the basic validational requirement for it's ethical justification founded within temporal considerations of either the past or future...
apparently the old but so true saying
The Ends can never justify the Means
isnt working...
to bring "peace" as those with the bombs define it...
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It's heartbreaking. It is so hard not to lose faith in us ignorant humans. You do a great service by being inspiring and positive because that's what it takes.
Amen, Jimi!
It is a child.
The topmost picture looks almost exactly what I remember seeing in my Latin textbook...the people (including children) surprised by Mt. Vesuvius when it erupted in Pompeii in 79 A.D.
The Romans thought the gods were angry with them. What then, are these people thinking? What reason are they formulating as to why this is happening to them?
That picture, that is what I understand to be the true meaning of horror.
These pictures are taken from the battles between Israel and Lebanon, right?
Absolutely horrific. Why? It's all so senseless.
A grade 8 teacher from Dan's school left here to become the principal of an international school in Beirut. They arrived just days before the bombing started. We were all so relieved to learn that he and his family made it safely toSyria. In a recent interview with our local paper, he said that they hope to be able to return to Beirut. Personally, I'm so optimistic about that one.
It is horrible. They are fighting a Biblical war. I hate to say it, but to them it is neccessary. BTW, soontoshrink I don't think this is George Bush's fault. This was a long time coming.
I stand behind Israel. I stand behind my Jewish people and I am thankful that Bush is trying to let Israel defend, yes I said DEFEND, themselves despite enormous world pressure. Most Americans can not even begin to understand this war. They have not the capability. Let us not forget that Israel was ATTACKED by Hezbollah first, an UNPROVOKED attack. Their insurgents invaded Israel, pulling Israeli children from their school buses and shooting them one by one, kidnapping Israeli soldiers and firing rockets into residential areas. What is Israel supposed to do, sit back and weigh it's diplomatic options? Would America just sit back if military insurgents fired rockets from Mexico into Texas suburbs, rushed into Texas cities to drag our children off their schoolbuses and shoot them in the head one by one, leaving them in the street to die? Would we as Americans "talk peace" with a terrorist military group that has the capability to drag children off their school bus and shoot them one by one?
The Hezbollah shamelessly hide their fighters and their rockets in residential areas of Lebanon. That is the point. Using civilians as human shields in war is an international war crime and one that Hezbollah is expert at.
You know, the world tried to "appease" and "make peace" with Hitler as well. When will it dawn on us that you can not appease murdering madmen? To forget history is to let it repeat itself. How many peace treaties must be broken by the Arab world before the world realizes that they mean no peace for Israel? Israel believes in peace as do the Jewish people. If we did not, we would not have tried so very desperately for the last fifty years to achieve it. Is fifty years of broken peace treaties against Israel still not enough to justify it's right to defense?
Israel and the Jewish nation has been fighting for their country since Israel was given to the Jews after the Holocaust and WWII. And could you dare so you would not react the same as Israel? America would go to war in a heartbeat if the repeated travesties that Israel has had to endure were cast upon us, but of course then it would be justified, yes? For then it would be our own dying, our own children lying in the road to die instead of some foreign screen shot flickering by on a news report.
I know you are very close to this situation, but I can only respond with my heart. I do not just see the pictures, I read news from many outlets. This will not end until both sides put down their arms.
It's sad and wrong... for all the world, not just the Jews or Americans or Muslims. It's just so horribly sad.
there is a fundamental ethical premise that is often overlooked by our mind dominated, temporally misaligned, egoic culture.
The prime ethic
if we would allow it
Is that crux which arises as a commonality at the heart of many of today's seemingly complex issue's
be they either individaul personal issues or larger cultural situations as in this war
This re-emerging prime directive... points to something like this..
Commit no deed or action, in the present moment, that has the basic validational requirement for it's ethical justification founded within temporal considerations of either the past or future...
apparently the old but so true saying
The Ends can never justify the Means
isnt working...