Friday, May 02, 2008
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Buy American! Or Not??? A General Discussion of the Economy
I received the following as an e-mail forward about a month or so ago (according to Gmail: April 16). Then I just stumble uponed a similar concept here. I'm going to post the text of the e-mail and then I will discuss it:
How to use Your IRS Rebate check:
As you may have heard, the Bush Administration said each of us would get a rebate check to stimulate the economy.
- If we spend that money at Wal-Mart, all the money will go to China.
- If we spend it on gasoline it will go to the Arabs.
- If we purchase a computer it will go to India.
- If we purchase fruit and vegetables it will go to Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala.
- If we purchase a good car it will go to Japan.
- If we purchase useless stuff it will go to Taiwan
- And none of it will help the American economy.
We need to keep that money here in America. The only way to keep that money here at home is to spend it at yard sales, since those are the only businesses still in the US.
OK. I have several major problems with this e-mail
1. Assumption that International trade is bad
The statement "We need to keep that money here in America" implies that the writer believes that international trade is a bad thing. We all know that this is a belief held by many Americans, but it doesn't make it right. They completely ignore foundational concepts of economic theory from Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations. Primarily it ignores the idea of specialization, which is the notion that when Nation A focuses on doing what it does best and then trades that product with Nation B who is good at doing something that Nation A needs and also needs what Nation A produces, both nations benefit. The United States of America does suffer from a trade deficit, but it is not nearly as bad as many might think. The USA exports food all over the world, and menial, unskilled labor as well. In return we get oil, technology, etc from all over the world.
2. Misunderstanding of how economy works
The e-mail presents the problem so that the uninformed reader will make the assumption that for every $1.00 spent at Walmart, $1.00 gets sent to "China". I'm going to set aside the fact that Walmart has a major "Buy American" emphasis in their supply chain, because that's not really what's at the heart of this discussion. The same assumption lies with all of the other things mentioned, too.
So what really happens to my money when I buy at Walmart? The first thing that happens is it goes into Walmart's income, from which Walmart - a United States corporate entity - must pay taxes. From there, Walmart pays wages. From Lee Scott, all the way down to the old lady who gave you your smiley face sticker the other day, Walmart pays wages to men and women who live, work, play, and most importantly for our discussion spend in the United States. Included in their payroll expense is the FICA tax they must match for the employees - more money to the United States of America. They most likely have to pay an audit agency to help them keep their books. They probably employ lawyers and also pay insurance on everything from their property to their employees. None of this money leaves the USA.
From there, Walmart pays their suppliers, who are most likely US corporate entities with the same burden of taxes, wages, and other expenses that must stay in the country. Oh, did I mention that having brick and mortar stores for these businesses costs money that stays in the USA? Did I mention that maintaining a website costs money that likely stays in the USA? So after all of this expense, the supplier uses what's left to pay their suppliers, who pay their suppliers, etc and on up the supply chain.
Now, somewhere along the line, there is probably a supplier who is based in China. Then your money is in China, because at that point you probably have tariffs that go to the Chinese government. You have Chinese taxes, and wages to Chinese people. All of this goes to bolster China's economy, who turns around and trades with us and we both benefit.
I don't have real numbers to back this up for sure, but I would hazard a guess that maybe (maybe) 10 cents on every dollar you spend at Walmart ever leaves US soil. Keep in mind that much of what I have been talking about is the economic principal of The Money Multiplier. That once money is spent, it is then taken by the recipient and spent again, and again, and again, so that the same dollar can have an impact on the economy over and over again. Our economy grows when people spend, not when they hoard, and when we spend, it gets spent again. And in no way are you sending all of your money to China by buying at Walmart or to Arabia by buying gas. Exxon Mobil, Shell, Texaco, etc, are all US corporate entities.
3. The Deleterious Effect of Buying Only Used
Another aspect of US corporations I didn't mention is that they are not owned by some big wig with 10 private jets and a 72 hole private golf course. They are owned by shareholders - regular every day people who have invested money in the success of that business. Most people who have a retirement plan have it in the form of stocks and bonds and probably own Walmart and Exxon Mobil or some other large corporation. These stocks and bonds depend on the success of corporations in the USA to do well. As fast as the economy grows when people spend is as fast as it shrinks when people hoard or only buy used at garage sales and whatever. Not only will the only stuff we have be old and wearing out, but the money is not multiplied nearly to the same degree as if it is put into the corporate system of the USA.
A brief study of history will reveal that in the 1800's the reason why the USA was so much faster at industrialization and booming their economy than the rest of the world was because of the relative freedom corporations had. Great Britain, for example, had much more stringent red tape on the road to creating and operating a corporation, and it hampered their ability to industrialize as quickly as the US. Big Business is what made this country what it is today. It is the reason our economy thrives. When business is good, the economy is good.
So stop listening to idiots like George Carlin who doesn't know what he is talking about. But unfortunately because he's a celebrity and swears a lot people listen, and he knows it. I neither endorse the message of the video I posted above (though I do think that some of the points me makes in the first minute or so about credit cards and education are good, but from there he degrades into idiocy) nor the language he uses. Please understand that I only post this as an example of how dumb some people can be.
Speaking of credit cards. I said earlier that spending is what drives our economy - and it is. But spending should only be done within one's means. Credit cards, unnecessary loans, buying stuff on 90 days same as cash, and payroll advance places are dangerous things, for reasons most people are aware of. You run the risk of getting yourself in over your head and having to declare bankruptcy. I would advise avoiding '90-days-same-as-cash' and payroll advance places at all costs. Taking out loans and using credit cards could go either way. Do not, I repeat, do not buy everything on your credit card and pay only the minimum every month - or even slightly over your minimum. Only buy on your credit card what you have means to pay off by the end of the month. Credit cards can be good for buying things online, or for stuff like gas, but don't carry a balance if at all possible.
But so long as people spend within their means, the economy grows and grows and grows. This is why when the media reports that we might possibly go into a recession soon, we always invariably seem to. Is it because the media has psychic abilities? No! It's a self fulfilling prophecy. People see "Possible Recession Soon" so they start hoarding their money. Low and behold, spending goes down, and we're in a recession. I think the media would find that if they start saying, "Economic Boom Approaching" then low and behold we'll have and economic boom!
I don't at all think anyone is un-American for wanting to shop at garage sales or buy used stuff. There are a lot of good deals that can be found, so if you want to save money go for it. Not everybody can afford new stuff - like cars for example. But don't do it out of some idiotic notion that it's helping the US economy, because it's not. Especially if the people in that big white building in Washington every get their heads screwed on straight and pass the FairTax.
Before I go, I would like to include the caveat that I understand the difficult effect that soaring oil prices have on our economy. When the price of oil goes up, then it's supply goes down and we enter a recession. Ultimately this is bad for the economy, but there's nothing we can do about it. It's not an economic feasibility to pursue alternative sources of energy - believe me. It won't pay for itself until someone makes a breakthrough. It's going to have to be something as impactful as the cotton gin or the steam engine. A major invention will have to happen, and until that happens we're still dependent on oil. AND even if we did reduce the amount of oil we need for gasoline, we still need it for many other things (plastic for example), and therefore would still be buying it, and by far our cheapest oil comes from the Middle East. So even if we reduced the amount of oil we use, we would not reduce our dependency on Middle Eastern oil. We would stop using our own first.

Comments (134)
spend within means? how's that?
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Finally somebody who writes like an economist! I'm a fourth year economics student, and I am specializing in trade economics. Even though I'm at the top of my class I still have to say that I have only the vaguest idea of what's going on. It's very sad then that a bunch of idiots without a clue in the world can make statements or even policy that everybody follows, especially considering that I know a hell of a lot more than them, and I feel like I know next to nothing!
Interesting perspective and good job breaking down that email forward. Sadly, my rebate is off to pay my school creditors, the bastards. If not for that, I would have invested the money instead. I do however, take care to save in order to make investments in the future.
Of course, the real problem is that economists attempt to conduct themselves as scientists, doing research making nuanced and multi-faceted arguments and in the end claiming that things "could be, but you can't say with absolute certainty", not to mention internal disagreement and debate among economists. When some politician, or celebrity or your next door neighbour says unequivocally "this is how things are" people prefer to go for that instead.
I'll admit that I skimmed your blog. (I should be studying for a physics final). But I think you have some really good points. I think its important for people to take a step back and realize that globalization has a huge effect on everything. We are definitely living in a global economy. I listened to a speech given by Shell's president John Hoffmeister, granted it was biased, but where the economy is now is not completely the fault of international companies. It's influenced by the regulations we have here as well. I guess its just time for everyone to change their priorities and just spend money wisely and as you said.. within their means.
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Even though I'm obviously not as educated as you are, for lack of age, I do agree with your self fulfilling prophecy statement(s?) as well as your thoughts on credit cards or loans and the debt-related problems they cause. However, many people take out loans in attempts to help themselves when it comes to their salary or education level. My own family has never been particularly well off, and as a result, I'm not going to be able to afford college by gorging myself with money from my mother, or by borrowing from her while working to make my own money. I'm more then likely going to have to take out loans to pay for the twelve or more years of college I'm going to need, which will eventually lead to me being one of the millions of American adults leading a life of debt while working to pay it off and living in an apartment with barely enough room to walk in.
And how that all relates to what you said I've honestly forgotten. But I did enjoy reading your post.
Jeez, it's a good thing that "thefinalwarning" dude doesn't go to my site - this morning I posted about pissing on a Catholic school. He might have an aneurysm or something.
One way to ensure that you buy American is to drink American beer, except for the fact that most of it tastes like pee.
this should clearly have been written about american cheese.... or something...
This was a very interesting post, thank you for this. Now, I'll get an inkling as to what my boyfriend is talking about (he's also an economics major). In fact, I think you two would get along nicely. He admires Adam Smith so much so that, except for the fact that the man has long since been dead, I think if he knew him personally I would probably be second to Adam Smith with regard to my boyfriend's amorous affections.
And thank you for reminding us about the importance of living within our means. Credit cards are not evil, I have several, but I always, always, always only charge what I know I will be able to pay when the bill comes in the next month. I've been debt free for about five years now because of that principle (which I learned from my mother and grandmother), and I've never slept better since.
Good post.
Chain emails are full of the most dumbed-down, vapid cliches. It's good to see there are others out there who think them through and don't just go "America! Yeah!" and hit forward.
@beli_grrl - this made me laugh out loud - very funny
Awesome post man. Boycott Wal Mart ;)
hear hear! well-written! but even if we are dependent on oil i think it is a good thing to try and cut back on usage for environmental reasons. breakthroughs in energy technology don't just happen, a lot of money has to go into the research. it's not economically nice, but it is something we definitely have to put more effort into.
alternatively, we could beef up the US public transportation systems, which are shitty.
You have some good thoughts, however, I disagree with your thoughts on the infeasability of alternative energy sources. There are some very realistic possibilities - not necesesarily photovoltaic, but, there are for instance various other forms of solar energy that could be used. Also, coal diesel,, and (if properly done) ethanol are all possibilities (although ethanol is probably the most difficult of these right now). Big Business, also, is not what made our country great. It was a part of what made our country great. But, the basic ideas of equality of our founding fathers, as well as a great deal of ingenuity, applied in a democratic capitalistic model made our country great. Big business, when run unethically, has done as much as anything to do great harm to the average american worker.
However, much of the rest of your points stand well. Kudos.
Good blog. There are many ignorant emails like that floating about. It's sad b/c many people take them to heart and really don't understand the true nature of things.
I got that forward from my Grandmother...who probably believes it. I am not sure what is worse... that some poor misguided soul believed that enough to write it, or that they foisted it on other poor misguided souls who are naive enough to believe it. Then again, I don't think it was meant to be taken so seriously either. I think the point behind it was to sarcastically point out the fact that fewer and fewer products/merchandise/goods seem to be manufactured/made here in the United States anymore.
I agree with most of your post, but I cannot condone Wal-Mart at all. They underpay their workers severely and although they as a corporation may do good things (giving money to scholarships, charities etc.) they ruin small communities and create vicious circles that force their employees to work and buy only at wal-mart.
Wal-mart can be a drain on our economy as well, primarily because although they claim to buy American at least 50% of their merchandise comes from overseas (source). Although, as you said, this can be a good thing, it makes it impossible for smaller businesses to compete and then we get monopoly sort of situations going on where only big businesses can stay afloat or make a profit.
But the rest of your post was insightful and interesting.
Boo Wal-mart.
You had some good points, but you didn't mention anything about inflation or where inflation comes from (Govm't printing money aka counterfeiting), there are real reasons the news is talking about a recession I'm surprised it took them so long because the housing bubble popped MONTHS ago.
I also think that email you posted is more for a laugh, at least I laughed when I received it.
hahaha.. I did enjoy the list at first... Spend how you want, it's your money when it comes down to it.... o yea and we get taxed on it next year....LOL
Good, but I have a problem with #3--consider how much stock is owned by a small, really wealthy percentage of the population. Sometimes everyday folks can be harmed by efforts to raise stock prices, as what is good for corporations certainly isn't necessarily good for the people.
I don't see a problem with what Carlin had to say--he's a realist, unfortunately. And even though I hate to hear it, what he says is (at least) mostly true.
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That makes sence.
I agree on the whole celebrities spreading idiocy thing. (Idiocy is one of my favorite words) Just because they come off with twisted logic that makes some kind of sence to the uneducated doesn't make what they say true. Take one half truth, or even a flaw, and they run with it. Unfortunately, facts don't sell.
Great post. I appreciate someone who thinks carefully and critically.
And GOOOOO Wal-Mart. They are a GOOD thing for the economy. They do NOT ruin neighborhoods. Their workers are NOT underpaid. And NO ONE is complaining about the prices at Wal Mart!
By the way, so what if we buy from China?! In the long run it is better that we DO buy from them even if their labor practices leave something to be desired. When we buy from them it raises their standard of living. People who are upwardly mobile will eventually demand their way out of the oppressive conditions their government imposes. If we DON'T buy from them they will remain impoverished.