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Original: 9/11/2005 3:45 PM
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Sunday, September 11, 2005
 

Dream. Lockbox. Fuck You money. Lockbox. Dream.

How many people think,"Why not get rich, then do your dream?" How many people put their dreams in a lockbox, go out and make Fuck You money, then return to the lockbox and pick up where they left off? How many people, who have gotten accustomed to working for a "very good" bank, are able to cut off that pipeline of cash and start to do something that they truly enjoy?
"Money is freedom," it is often said. "It's a different kind of freedom that you'll learn to appreciate later in life." If you were financially independent, you would never have to take work you didn't want to do. But to become financially independent, you may have to take work you don't want to do.
"I'll just stick with this job for two more years," they say, referring to a job that doesn't inspire them yet generates a handsome amount of cash. Two years would lead to five years. Why waste years trying to game the system? Why fabricate excuses for why one should stick at a job that isn't, ultimately, the real him? There must be a more straightfoward way in life.

Dream. Lockbox. Fuck You money. Lockbox. Dream.

What a cold, calculating formula.

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Yikes, that's a scary post. Though you need experience to go anywhere in life. With experience and financial independance can you chase those dreams. For people like me with no money, I can't do what I want to do (ie. go travel / move out), but I'm doing whatever I can to reach those goals as soon as possible. How long is that? I'm hoping not too long :P... and I actually had to take a job that doesn't inspire me to get some experience that will hopefully lead to better things. But, saying that, I know that I don't want to be here, and I'm applying elsewhere. Is there another way? Not with this damn degree :P
To have a more straightforward way of life, either you have to have some contacts, experience, or a really damn good education that they'll hire you right out of university (which is barely anyone who comes out).
For everyone else, that 'cold, calculating formula' is what you have to stick by, but also have the idea that you shouldn't stay in one place for too long (esp. if you don't like what you're doing)
Posted 9/12/2005 8:23 AM by GrobSMG - reply

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Obviously, for people who have no money or the means to produce it, will find that money becomes a necessity.  But let's ignore these people in this particular conversation because they are a rather extreme group which you don't have to deal with yet.

It's simple, just have the courage to make up yuor own mind and not cave into pressure or expectations of others when their goals are incompatible with your own.  You just have to learn to be callous and uncaring of certain things that hinder your progress.

There's an operating point in a graph between financial gain vs. job satisfaction, and a graph between financial gain and screwing people over.  You just have to locate that point, make your decisions based upon it. 

People like my younger brother do this easily.  All you have to do is be selfish and exploit/manipulate all situations to yuor advantage.  That way, you know when you have enough money, you know when you're going to leave a job despite the fact that people have become dependent on you etc...Basically, it means you're not afraid to exercise your "free" choices when they present themselves.  People like my brother aren't worried abuot throwing themselves into ugly situations, like doing a job they hate just for the money, cause they know they can leave it whenever they want to find a bigger and better job when it comes around. 

Posted 9/13/2005 5:42 AM by johnlai2004 - reply

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Aye aye -- "This damn degree." There are 4 new EE's froshes on my floor this year. When they introduced themselves, they did so with an air of invincibility, thinking they're all that because they have twice as many hours as artsies. "No, we're not just engineers, but we are ELECTRICAL engineers." Are they in for a real treat *sneer*.

My don did engineering science at U of T for 2 yrs, got burned out, took a year off travelling, then finished mechanical engineering at Queen's. He worked for 3 yrs afterwards, got burned out again, and decided to return to school to get a Masters. He lamented how engineering has been degraded to a mere middle-low class job these days. After busting their asses in school just to pass and get the "damn degree," the engineers discover that people in business/commerce, who used to be their laughingstock and had twice as much free time to actually enjoy university life, become their superiors and boss them around.
Posted 9/13/2005 7:05 AM by chanctw - reply

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Lol, that invincibility factor... how we felt it coming in, how we know better coming out :P
I agree /w the business commerce people having more fun during univ. and getting jobs fairly quickly coming out of university, but from what i've seen most places I've worked (not that many though), engineers are usually upper management ppl... most likely it's because of the industries i'm in (aerospace here, director, manager, supervisors, even analysts (though analysts - engineers are from abroad)). In the city as well, a more business environment, the executive director, director and manager where i was working were all eng. grads...
I'm sure it's not that way in the banking industry, or more business related industries...
Posted 9/13/2005 9:50 AM by GrobSMG - reply

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The executive director and managers in engineering firms that you mentioned probably have MBAs; otherwise how did they obtain the skills and qualifications to manage a business? Here we've struck a key point: how can those with sub-par GPAs even get their feet into the doorstep of a good MBA school? Granted that renowned MBA schools are willing to overlook a below-average GPA if the applicant has a stellar work record, asking them to accept the GPAs given out to many students in U of T's eng department is still pushing the envelope a bit too far.

Posted 9/13/2005 4:16 PM by chanctw - reply

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Most here don't... but I guess one has to remember that 10 years ago even were different times. Now most people to go somewhere have to have masters or MBA. And yup, our crap GPAs won't get us anywhere, lol... I don't think i'd even be accepted to get into an undergrad course with my GPA... so enter the 'stellar work experience'. How are we supposed to get that experience if we can't get a job in the first place due to the either a) low GPA or b) no entry level positions...
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Thought you might find this funny.. was reading an article from The Toronto Star and came upon this paragraph:

"Unable to find a use for his economics degree from the University of Toronto, McKell chose to follow his interest in race relations and landed a job with the school board encouraging immigrant families in the Parkdale area to become involved in their children's schools."

Unable to find a use for his economics degree, lol... was he even trying to find a job?
Posted 9/14/2005 8:56 AM by GrobSMG - reply


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