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Tuesday, October 11, 2005
 
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So I was thinking about titling this Bernadette's Dating Manifesto, but I won't, partly because I don't think this is my definitive last word on the subject - I'm figuring things out as I go - and also because almost none of these ideas are really mine.  I'm pulling this stuff from a million conversations and books and videos and speakers and who knows what.  So I can't take credit for anything.  For now, anyway, this is what I think:

I don't know that there is one perfect person out there waiting for me.  I think perhaps there's a field of possibilities that narrows the further we go.  I do think that God knows the man I will be married to, and I believe that God is forming him as He is forming me.  I trust God that the man I marry will be exactly what I need to help me become the woman God wants me to be.

With that said, I'm not looking for the perfect man, but I do want one who is perfect for me.  I think that's what happens when we're attracted to someone: we see or think we see something in them that is not just good but also good for us.  The number of things that would have to dovetail for me to be able to coexist with a particular person is a little intimidating.  There's the basics (Christian, loves God with all his heart, I can't push him around), and then the seemingly more frivolous things that still can make or break a relationship (do we laugh at the same things? can he stand my family? is he addicted to Hummel figurines, or paintings of clowns, or who knows what?).  And we can't forget the physical side, without which all this is just a beautiful friendship.  When I think of all the things that would have to mesh, it's more than a little intimidating.  From that perspective, it would take a miracle to find the right guy for me.  Which is why it's a good thing God's in charge of it, not me.

Beyond just encountering this paragon, there's learning to love him and letting him learn to love me.  I talked about this more in a comment elsewhere, so I'm not going to go into it again here.  Letting myself be totally loved means opening myself totally to another person.  This is terrifying enough to do with God, much less a fallible human being who is guaranteed to be imperfect, insensitive and clueless.  I'm going to get hurt.  What's worse, I'm going to hurt him too.  It's kindof like getting dipped at the end of a dance (something I stink at, and yes, it all goes back to swing dancing).  It could be really beautiful and cool.  Or you could get dumped on your butt, maybe hurt pretty bad depending on how you land, definitely humiliated.  The question is: how much do you trust the person you're dancing with?

The thing is that trust takes time to develop.  Just like rushing into physical intimacy is a mistake, so is rushing into emotional intimacy.  You need time to get to know the whole person.  True love can only rest securely on a broad foundation of friendship.  I can't imagine anything better than being married to my best friend, or dating someone who wasn't a friend.  However, this requires remaining open to all the possibilities inherent in a particular relationship until you either discern that the person is not who you want to marry, or another comittment (yours or theirs) closes off that possibility.  I think this is reflected in the Song of Songs, where the Bridegroom refers to his beloved as, "my sister, my bride."

I also think it's important to date like you mean it.  We date in order to find the person we will marry.  If you're not ready to be married, you're not ready to date.  I think this includes building emotional intimacy with someone.  While close, supportive friendships are awesome, and I'm immensely grateful for the brothers God has given me, it's not right to lead someone on, giving them the kind of attention that usually means romantic interest without any intention of fulfilling the expectations you've aroused.  So you have to be carefully honest both with yourself and with the other person about what kind of relationship you're building.

This is the longest post ever, but there's one more thing I wanted to say.  All of this is utterly dependent on the perfect will of God.  HatMan nailed it when he quoted Psalm 37.  Too often we interpret that verse to mean that when we delight ourselves in the Lord, then God will give us what we want.  It's as if finding our match is the carrot on the string we're chasing after.  If I just get holy enough, then God will bring my future spouse into my life.  It's not like that.  Holiness is a lifelong pursuit.  We have to chase after God with all our hearts whether we're single or married, even if we are never married.  And that might be God's will for us.  We have to trust God to form our hearts so that our desires match His.  Which is way easier said that done, and we'll never be able to do this perfectly until we're dead and in heaven.  But the attempt is what will get us to heaven.

And that's what I wanted to say.

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Oooh!  So close!  I was with you all the way until your second to last sentence :)  But you probably could have anticipated that (as that's the major difference between our beliefs), and I'd love to talk about it sometime.  Great post, though, and all the better since you tied swing into it all :)  I've typed (and then deleted) three different comments on it now.  Basically they all said the same thing -- Amen, sister!
Posted 10/11/2005 4:08 PM by bkakabk - reply

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Aw, shucks...

And, the part about the attempt, or the part about not being perfect until heaven?  And I'd really love to talk about it too - I'm very curious about the differences in our beliefs.

Posted 10/11/2005 4:32 PM by curlygrrl - reply

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Yeah, the attempt is what I meant. KJ and I were just talking about this last night, actually. I believe very strongly in salvation by faith alone as opposed to faith + works ( For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, {it is} the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast --Ephesians 2:8-9). One of the big consequences to this is that we can KNOW that we are saved ("He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life --1 John 5:13). If we are relying on our works to help us into heaven, then how can we know when we've done enough?
Posted 10/11/2005 5:43 PM by bkakabk - reply

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Eeeek! We're getting into a Catholic-Protestant conversation here! Run away, run away!

But seriously, good job with your Dating Manifesto. I particularly like your discussion of the need to develop that closeness of a friendship but open to ALL the possibilities that might emerge from it, so that one really can say "my sister, my bride". ("My brother, my bridegroom"?) It is so flippin' hard to be open to someone, especially spending lots of time with them, and not immediately fall into wanting that romance with them . . . yesterday. But that kind of impatience is what closes us off to the other possible outcomes of our relationship with that person. Hmmm.
Posted 10/11/2005 11:51 PM by Just_Kj - reply

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hey Bernadette! I have always known this stuff, but you brouight up some things taht I hadn't thought about. I wish teens could see dating the way you described it here...but maybe this view just comes with knowlege, wisdom and understabnding that some of them don't have yet.
Posted 10/12/2005 8:52 AM by the_sturdy_brunette - reply

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Yeah, that's actually one of my deleted comments because I couldn't quite figure out what I was trying to say, but I love that discussion too.  I guess my problem is that there are very few people that I've gotten that close to without it becoming romantic (at least on my end).  And most of the ones that didn't become romantic, there were other factors (distance, etc).  Where does it cross the line from being close friends to being emotional intimacy? 
Posted 10/12/2005 9:09 AM by bkakabk - reply

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I don't think we're saved by works either.  We're saved by the pure grace of God which makes all things, even faith, possible.  Our salvation begins when we open ourselves to that grace, and the process of openning more and more to the grace continually poured out on us is what makes us holy.  So how do we open ourselves up to grace?  Well, we have to ask for the grace to be open (a work), make the decision to have faith (another work), and then act on that decision by praying (another work), chosing to love others (another work), etc.  Paul refers to this when he tells the Philipians to "work out your salvation with fear and trembling" (Phil 2:12).  We also can't just choose to have faith and stop there.  If we do that we abort the process of salvation before it can go much of anywhere.  James talks about this a lot, saying, "Be doers of the word and not hearers only, deluding yourselves" (James 1:22) and "For just as a body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead" (James 2:26).

So we can't rely on anything except the love of God to get us into heaven.  But in order for the love of God to operate in our lives we have to make room for it by our actions.

As for when we cross the line between good friendship and emotional intimacy - I don't know.  I'm figuring that out myself right now.  I think 1 Corinthians 7:36-38 might have something to do with it.  I'd be very interested in hearing what various people think about that.

Posted 10/13/2005 4:16 PM by curlygrrl - reply

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I know for myself I've fallen into the trap of opening myself to a man, telling him important things, and as I am a girl, bonding with him. But it is all one sided.  Just because I give of myself doesn't nessesarily mean that he is right there with me.  Girls bond by talking.  If I would do the same thing with a girl, it would take us to a new level of intimacy and all the expectations that are implied.  Girls understand this and therefore, mostly, fullfill the expectations.  But this is not so with guys.  I can share all sorts of things, and then get hurt when the guy doesn't react like a girl.  heh.. you think I'd figure this out by now.  So what I am working on right now with my guy friends is the idea of being able to share "me" at the deapest level, and then be satisfied with whatever, if anything, they give me back.  So my sharing turns into a pure gift that i can give these men of myself.  That is a blessing of the highest order. 

I know this is a long comment but I still have one more thing to say.  I am going to get alot of practice with this "sharing alot, but not turning into romance" thing, as I will be sharing a house with two guys next year.  One of whom I have been attracted to in the past.  It will be hard, but it is a lesson I need to learn.  I firmly believe in the idea of being able to call my husband, "My beloved bridegroom, and brother."  But to do this I need to learn how to have brothers first. 

Posted 10/14/2005 1:51 PM by asacksteder - reply

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I thought that I might add a comment to clarify the whole living with boys = living with brothers.  When I decided to that I would take them up with their offer we had to have a discussion about boundries.  I had three big issues 1. no girls "sleeping over", i won't have guys doing that either. 2.  I'm going to be modest whenever they see me, I expect them to do the same. 3.  I will NOT become romatically involved with either of them b/c this is just asking for trouble.  4.  I will be keeping my femine supplies in the bathroom, but I'll hide them in a pretty box so the don't have to see them.  5. And I will not share the bathroom with them (as we are in the bathroom at the same time) even just for toothbrushing.  They agreed, as I thought they would, and I signed.  Hopefully we will live happily ever after.

Posted 10/16/2005 10:28 PM by asacksteder - reply


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