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Wednesday, September 13, 2006

JOSE DE JESUS MIRANDA IS NOT JESUS: A BIBLICAL RESPONSE

 

(NOTE: THIS TOOK ALL AFTERNOON!)

INTRODUCTION

Lately, there has been a guy by the name of Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda who’s claim to be Jesus have been on the spotlight of the national media, from Foxnews to NBC’s Today Show.We will critique a video clip that propagate this error on YouTube.

 

 

1.) “Finally, the wait is over, the Lord of the Christian has reincarnated, in a Puerto Rican Man.” (00:15-00:20)

 

RESPONSE: Do not believe it.

 

At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, there he is!' do not believe it.” (Mark 13:21; emphasis added)

 

2.) “He came back through this Puerto Rican man, through Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda, the man Christ Jesus.” (00:24-00:32)

 

RESPONSE:For false Christs and false prophets WILL APPEAR and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.” (Matthew 24:24; emphasis added)

 

3.) “Jesus of Nazareth, as we know him, said he would return a second time and everyone expects for him to come flying down.But no, he would return the same way he came the first time, in a body and preaching.” (00:35-00:45)

 

RESPONSE: Jesus second coming will be from the sky.

 

“They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. ‘Men of Galilee,’ they said, ‘why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.’” (Acts 1:10-11; emphasis added)

 

4.) “I was able to interview, Jesus Christ.” (00:47-50)

 

RESPONSE: Did Jesus come down from the sky to interview the news reporter?

 

No.

 

“’Yes, it is as you say,’ Jesus replied. ‘But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.’” (Matthew 26:64)

 

5.) “He is God.” (00:53)

 

RESPONSE: Since Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda is a false Christ, he can not be from God, not to mention being God himself.

 

6.) “For me to dare say that I am the man Christ Jesus, I have much proof of what is written and this is what gives me peace.” (01:09-01:18)

 

RESPONSE: No Proof was offered by Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda that satisfied the Biblical Criteria.

 

“Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, and will deceive many.” (Matthew 24:4-5)

 

7.) “After two thousand years, the world is being witnessed to the second coming of Jesus Christ on the earth.”(01:22-01:29)

 

RESPONSE: Is the whole world mourning and is Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda on the sky’s cloud?

 

No.

 

"At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.” (Matthew 23:30; emphasis added)

 

8.) “The Apostle Paul wrote that he would return the second time without relation to sin.That’s why he said he would come a second time without a relation to sin because it no longer exists!”(01:34-01:46)

 

RESPONSE: This appears to be a reference to the verse in Hebrews 9:28 about Christ return would be chiefly for the purpose of those He will saved.

But how does this show that Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda is Jesus Christ?

 

9.) “He also wrote, ‘To he who could confirm you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ.’”(01:52-01:58)

 

RESPONSE: This is a rough wording of the verse Romans 16:25 that Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda used to show that in Christ second coming, he would be preaching, which is what Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda happened to do.Four quick points must be noted.

 

(A) Nowhere in the Context of the surrounding passage are there any references to Jesus’ second coming.

 

(B) This passage talks about Christ ministry of preaching and teaching before his death.

 

(C) If Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda were to interpret the surrounding verses and context as in the future, then Paul’s ministry with the gospel (mentioned in this sentence) would be a future event too; but Paul has been dead for thousands of years!

 

(D)Even if we give Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda this use of this verse to show that Christ would be preaching when he comes back, it does not establish him as Christ, for other false Christ also preaches!

 

10.) “He never self-proclaimed to be Jesus Christ. It was the church that recognized that what came out of his mouth was prophesied in the Bible.” (02:02-02:09)

 

RESPONSE: Did Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda really never proclaimed to be Jesus Christ? Even within this video clip, we see him claiming this himself one minute into the clip: For me to dare say that I am the man Christ Jesus, I have much proof.”

 

11.) “Jesus Christ is already on the earth, teaching, consoling and edifying his church.” (02:17-02:24)

 

RESPONSE: Do not believe it.

 

At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, there he is!' do not believe it.” (Mark 13:21; emphasis added)

 

12.) “Welcome to the Government of God!” (02:25-02:28)

 

RESPONSE: God’s Government, being His Kingdom, is already here before Jose Luis de Jesus proclaimed, “I will be president of the biggest government that this earth has experienced.” (See http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_254163721.html)

 

"In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. (Daniel 2:44; see context for clarity)

 

It is also spiritual in nature.

 

13.) “And I shall live and move amongst them, and be their God. And they shall be my people.” (02:31-02:38)

 

RESPONSE: Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda, being a false Christ, is not from God, nor is he God.

 

From http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_254163721.html and many news sources, we know that Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda is served by human hands so that he enjoys a life of luxury.

 

This is not the God of the Bible.

 

“And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else.” (Acts:17:25)

 

14.) “If this book is truth for the people who are watching, if this is the truth, then I am the Lord.”

 

RESPONSE: If you read the Bible, on the contrary you would reject Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda’s claim to be Christ.

 

“Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, and will deceive many.” (Matthew 24:4-5)

 

--Jimmy Li

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o man... it has already begun.... i mean... we've seen the signs before and truly the end is very near and He will come soon.... but already they're spreading news that He is here? my goodness... in Revelations, it states that many will say that they are Christ.... but "do not believe it"...

truly.... those who really know God and has a relationship with Him will know the truth...

Posted 9/13/2006 7:25 PM by spluvzu4eva - reply

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this man is crazy...i cannot believe so many people believe he is jesus. how...bothersome..
Posted 9/13/2006 10:27 PM by ChOcHaChO Xanga True Member - reply

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Hey Jim , Many seek their own path and people like this just tell some of them what they want to hear and this will bring them a following . Satan is very busy . Good post my brother we too must be ready to obey or Lord and join Jesus in the Fathers work . Jesus said the Father always is working and because of His love for the son tells Him of His work and the son joins the Father at His work since the son loves the Father . If we love Jesus we will follow Him to the Fathers work and He will show us since He loves those the Father has give to Him .

Steve is Army infantry , Thank you for prayers for him, your know his needs better than those who have not beeen there .

Rob is back with his wife she told me this time it is for keeps , they are at a different church and I don't see them very much now . I think it is difficult for them since they have told us so much .

Your friends in the car crash , did all recover ? Did the one who looked to gain from the accident get his heart streight ? There is so much out there so much need . We only are required to care for what Jesus brings to us and carry only what He offers but unlaod our burden as fast as possible to He who can carry all . Jim when the world pushes in remember what a old pastor once told me , " Barry the world will never satisfy you and you will never satisfy the world " . So only what God brings is what we must spend ourself for and is the only thing that we must place value in , All Glory to God our Father and in Him we abide .

His ever lasting blessing to you Jim

Barry

Posted 9/13/2006 11:39 PM by Barrygw Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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Thank you so very much Jim for posting this. I'm able to run the video but there is no sound?  We all know not to expect Christ to return in man form, that would be like a rerun of his life! This is another head of the devil for sure.

Blessing my brother,

Maria

Posted 9/14/2006 3:38 AM by momkeen - reply

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wow.....thats very interesting
Posted 9/14/2006 3:53 AM by Crispy87B - reply

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Hey Jim, now I understand your question.  If you remember many of the warnings Paul was giving Timothy, if you really read the text, he was warning the young preacher what to beware of then.  It amkes no sense for Paul to be warning a pastor of an event to occur 2k years in the future when you take a look at the pastoral letter.  That said, it does show the timelessness of scripture and the fact that there are shadows and types throughout history.  Much can be attributed to the banality of evil.  So this is the time that believers should be grounded in the Word, so they are not swayed by false doctrine and be more passionate than ever about fulfilling their kingdom purposes that Jesus Christ our Lord mandated.  To merely look for the end, and the cataclysmic day of the Lord with glee is wrong, we have work to do today for the kingdom.  I am glad you are doing just that, because we do have to be aware that the end is coming and that our Savior is coming back .
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And praying to that effect, they Kingdom come, thy will be done
Posted 9/14/2006 4:10 AM by ProvokingThought Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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God bless you bro.
Posted 9/14/2006 5:05 AM by radiantbutterfly - reply

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Wow. That's nuts. Amazing the lengths some people will go.

Mandarin isn't that hard - and it comes much easier when you're immersed in the culture. My meager semester of Mandarin here in the States was a basic foundation on which my learning began. But I didn't really grasp it until I had to.... or be hopelessly lost somewhere in Liaoning Province!

Posted 9/14/2006 5:15 AM by chinabelle - reply

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oh boy, he seems more like the anti-christ than anything. very disturbing.

it will truly be marvelous and awesome when our true Lord and Savior comes back again...when we hear the trumpet sound...

yes, that was the real pic of our baby! :)
Posted 9/14/2006 5:16 AM by hallororo - reply

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When I worked on a closed psychiatric unit I met a lot of people that thought they were Jesus too.  The only difference between them and this guy is that he dresses better and is getting rich of others, and he is not nuts.  He is a crook.  I saw an interview that 20/20 or some news agency had with this guy.  The people that follow him give him all of their money because he tells them that is what God would want them to do.  Perhaps the people that are following him need a trip to the psych ward. 

Ever heard of Peter Popoff?  He sends people magic water to solve all of their problems.  He says he was annointed by God.  False prophets and crooks are everywhere.  They pray on the faith challenged and the lonely. 

-IB

Posted 9/14/2006 5:16 AM by Ir0nBaBe02 - reply

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I have heard of this false prophet, thanks for sharing with those who haven't heard....speaking of haven't heard...are you being serious about not knowing that Sean Hannity has a radio show?  He has been on the radio for a few years and he is very big here in Texas.  He has alot of stations nationally that he is on and has speaking engagements across the country and several books out....I like him, he's smart, knows the issues....I guess I am a radio fan since I drive alot, how have you heard of him, his TV show, Hannity & Colmes? 

Have a great day in Him,

Mike

Posted 9/14/2006 5:31 AM by xThexGodfatherx Xanga True Member - reply

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dang i didn't even know there was a guy going around claiming to be Jesus Christ!!! thats too funny........no wait.....is he really misleading people? thats pretty sad then!!! that's pretty crazy.....but then the bible warned us of guys like this.....dang!!! who knew i'd live to see a false Christ?!
Posted 9/14/2006 6:00 AM by wlee03 - reply

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Dementia is mostly like alzhiemer's... it's a degenerative brain disease where you basicly forget everything. It's sad because he used to do all the odd jobs around the house and now my mom has to take care of him, and do those things at the same time. It's not so easy... like taking care of a big child that goes through temper tantrums.
Posted 9/14/2006 8:54 AM by brianjpatterson - reply

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Wow...that is crazy...I can't see the clip but I read your post. Time is short Jimmy.........
Posted 9/14/2006 10:12 AM by LisaBabie123 - reply

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its already written that a lot of false prophet will come but we should be guided accordingly.with the help of the Bible and our faith to Jesus as our savior..

ryc: were not yet married jimmy but we've been friends for almost two years and we've been in our relationship for almost 8months..

Posted 9/14/2006 12:04 PM by willful_couple - reply

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what a punk. scary to think that some people believe it.
Posted 9/14/2006 12:13 PM by napalmkamikaze - reply

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     Wow...people these days.

Posted 9/14/2006 10:19 PM by KageOokami - reply


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