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Monday, October 08, 2007

BANE /beyn/ n: poison; woe; harmful

 

 

 

"Get your hands OFF MY STUFF!!!!!"

The morning was clear, and my husband's voice carried all over the neighborhood.  We were standing outside my son's home loading up our car.  We had spent the weekend in Southeast Kansas, visiting family and friends, and my husband had also spent some time deer hunting.  It was the early season for black-powder guns, and he was dying to get back out there, since he hadn't gotten a deer last year.

I was slightly concerned about his outburst, wondering what the neighbors would think.  This was the second time Mike had told me to not touch his stuff.  The first time it was just, "Don't touch that."  I didn't realize he gave his strict admonition because he was concerned for me. 

You see, I am highly allergic to poison ivy, and he had just spent two days wandering through a jungle of hot, wet, lush ivy.  If he had just said the first time that he was concerned about me catching poison ivy from this boots, I certainly wouldn't have touched them!  I had been concerned about him bringing chiggers into the car, and it hadn't occurred to me that he might bring something worse...the dreaded poison ivy!

We jumped in the car and headed home, and I immediately forgot all about my "exposure" to my personal "bane."  A day or so later I noticed I was extra itchy.  I kept scratching my forearms and lower legs....and couldn't understand why I was itching so much.  Then I saw "it".  The tell-tale sign.  A bump.  I immediately screamed to my husband...."I HAVE A POISON IVY BUMP!!" 

You may be thinking...A poison ivy bump?  As in ONE??  Yep!  And for me, that can be the start of something devastating!  If, when I find a bump or two, I STOP the scratching and dry up the bump, I find I can usually nip my ivy in the bud...or at least keep it from spreading.  And I learned that the hard way!  =o<

I used to catch poison ivy on a regular basis...until I quit touching my husband and sons camping clothes.  Even then I caught it once from the outside of the washing machine.  I've gotten it from petting our cat...and from touching a coat stored in the barn that hadn't been worn for a YEAR.  I have even caught poison ivy in the dead of winter on what appeared to be a lone, dead twig, sticking up out of a field.  That particular case left my arm looking as if I had been burned.

This wicked stuff is very mysterious to me, so a few years back I began to do research on poison ivy and came up with some interesting facts.  I thought I had to touch the plant myself to break out...which I soon found out was wrong.  What makes poison ivy so wicked?  It's called urushiol, and it's an oil in the sap of poison ivy, poison oak and poison sumac.  In order to get it, you need to be exposed to the oil that has oozed from a broken plant root, stem, or leaf. 

And here is the kicker....the oil can stay active for up to five years on any unwashed surface, including pets, tools, sports or camping equipment, tennis shoes, shoelaces, rugs...even dead plants!!!

I heard a guy say once, "I can catch poison ivy by just walking by it!"  This was years ago, and I must admit, I thought he was a doofuss!  How could anyone get it by just walking by?  Well, it appears he was right!  My research showed that when the air is humid, the oil can "hang" in the air....we've all been in weather where it was so humid it felt like we were breathing cottage cheese.  (You haven't?  Try southeast Kansas in the summer!) 

And a person can catch poison ivy by being in the smoke where the vine...OR its oil...is on wood that's being burned.  This can be especially harmful because it can cause the person to break out on the inside, as well as the outside.  This actually happended to one of the scouts in our Boy Scout troop.  He caught it on a campout when there was 6 inches on snow on the ground.  The scouts burned wood that had poison ivy on it, and our camper had it in his eyes, nose, throat...can you imagine???!!! 

Some experts say that the more exposure you have, the less you will break out.  Others say, the more exposure you have, the more susceptible you are the next time...that you become more sensitive with each exposure.  I can only go by what I have experienced...and that is, I have become more sensitive to it over the years.  Plus people I know who NEVER had it before, suddenly break out in  adulthood.  Makes the "more exposure, more sensitive" theory extremely plausible to me.  Although, I do admit every person is different.  Not everyone on the face of the planet will react as I do.  Therefore I will concede that some may acquire immunity with more exposure, while others become more sensitive to it.

Since every person is different, the treatments would also be different, don't you think?  Some say that washing with warm or hot water increases swelling and spreads the oils, and that cool is best.  Yet I have read where people with poison ivy have used hot water to relieve their swelling and itching.  For me it was trial and error, but I found cool water was best.  No hot tub soaks or showers for me...I would just be itching even more!  One of the best things I can do is to take liquid soap and gently rub it onto dry skin, to help the itch and the spreading.  If done early, it really seems to work. 

There are about as many poison ivy treatments out there as there are people.  Here are some "interesting" ones I read about on line:
Scratching the rash with detergent until it bleeds.  Scraping the blisters with a wooden popsicle stick and pouring rubbing alcohol on it.  How about this one...wipe your own pee on the blisters!  Someone said to use Portland Cement on the rash, another uses WD40, and one swore by camphor and moonshine.  (I think the person used the camphor to dry up the blisters, and the moonshine to keep the affected person from "drying up"!) 

Another person recommended spanking or smacking it.  I will admit...I actually have "spanked" mine before...but it itched SO BAD and I was trying to keep from scratching it!  And scratching around the offending area (not on it) doesn't work either.  It only causes a NEW outbreak the next day in the very places I had scratched the day before, sometimes in long streaks, literally following the path my fingernails took as I scratched!  

So...I am very grateful my husband is so committed to keeping me out of dangerous situations.  So when he yelled, "Get your hands OFF MY STUFF!!!!!",  I knew he was trying to keep me safe.  But it was rather embarrassing....especially wondering what the neighbors thought! 

 

 

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Sounds miserable!! I have heard that there is a series of shots a person can take in order to build up an immunity, but I do not know any details. My son is looking into it because he and his uncle (they farm together) are exposed to poison ivy quite often when repairing fences and flood gates. I will let you know what he finds out. Hey - I talked to your son the other day - I was trying to order some games for Christmas gifts from his web site and had some technical problems. This very nice young man called me to try to figure out what I had done. I seem to even be able to mess things up long distance!! Have a great week. BTW - Did your husband get his deer?
Posted 10/8/2007 10:59 AM by KritterC - reply

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I can attest to the - shots -- i had them for several years as a teen  -the seem to have done the trick - when i was very young i used to get it like you - once unwittingly  climbed a sumac - was covered head to toe -one great big swollen frank! - now i'm hardly allergic at all i can touch it and only get a mild case... 
Posted 10/8/2007 11:26 AM by pamilvr Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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It is wonderful that he looks out for you! I am sorry that yo have to suffer with this. .I never had Poison,I weed it out of the yard etc because I do not get it,my sister got it really bad the year we burned a big brush heap,her throat started to swelled shut and she had to go to the hospital. I always thought that odd that we reacted so differently to Poison Ivy.
Posted 10/8/2007 11:55 AM by seedsower Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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Did you try Felds Naptha on it? My sister uses that now and it woks to dry it out for her right away.
Or Technu? http://www.remediesforpoisonivy.com/cleansing.htm
Posted 10/8/2007 12:02 PM by seedsower Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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Oh my oh my! That is why us gals should listen to our men isn't it? I agree with your theroy that what works for one may not work for someone else. I do think you can become immune to it for a while and then get it badly for a while before  becoming immune again. I do think vinegar spread over the exposed area has kept me from getting it. My husband uses liquid bleach after scrathing the area raw...yikes but it seems to always work for him. My Amish friend uses vinegar and then puts salt on it.....claims it works.

One thing we can all agree on is  poison ivy is very nasty stuff!

Posted 10/8/2007 12:47 PM by Lucy_or_Ethel Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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It seems there are as many ways to cure it as there are to catch it! I've never had poison ivy, so I cannot imagine how you must be feeling. How long does it last? I hope you are better soon!
Posted 10/8/2007 12:55 PM by BooksForMe Xanga True Member - reply

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I like our vocabulary lessons! I must remember that word: bane. We have a card game called Quiddler - it's a hand-held game sorta like Scrabble. It's fun and now we have a dictionary on the table when we play. I come up with kine - tine - and other ones and my kids think that they're not words--but, they are. Hopefully, I can surprise them with bane sometime. I break out from eucalpytus - I had a horrible rash one time on my face until I went to the doc and got some ointment. It surely was miserable.  What a lesson you have here on poison ivy. It's all good to know and I'm glad you HEARD your husband when he yelled. Who cares about the neighbors. ~Carolyn

Posted 10/8/2007 1:05 PM by RaZeHeLL Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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Hindsight in situations we've faced that could very well have gone better were caused by NOT saying exactly what needed saying at critical moments to the person who should have heard it. How much distress and heartache we can all avoid if we'd just be plain and clear with our words, no matter what they need to be, in the moment they need to be said.

My brother and sister once had poison ivy so bad they were in the hospital together for a couple weeks!!!! So I know what you must go through when the blisters overtake your body and system. May God keep you clear of that till He comes for you. God bless your week. ~~janet

Posted 10/8/2007 1:32 PM by lifemustgoonanyway - reply

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Wow, are you sensitive to poison ivy. I have gotten it and had quite a reaction but I am not terrible sensitive.

Thanks for stopping by. I am happy you enjoyed the balloons and chocolate.
Posted 10/8/2007 1:52 PM by EyeHatePeas - reply

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Indeed, poison ivy is a bane to those who react to it. I do, but not in a bad, bad way...unless I just plow right in and pull it up and touch my face and get it all over me and have to go to the doctor and can't sleep and think I'm going crazy with the itching and am embarrassed to go out of the house and it takes three weeks to stop itching and then I have scars where I scratched....but not bad enough to get it in my throat from breathing smoke, which happened to a friend of mine. I hope to be able to find a positive in any situation....that's the best I can do with P.I. Kind of like chiggers...what is their role in the natural order of things? There MUST be one since chiggers and P.I. are part of creation, but for the life of me, I can't imagine what it could be. DON'T SCRATCH THAT BUMP!!!!! 

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I wish I had been there to see the neighbors expressions!!
Posted 10/8/2007 2:38 PM by Major_mom - reply

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You have a thoughtful husband to alert you not to catch the poison ivy....I can catch it through the air!!  I am highly allergic and have to get shots to get rid of it!!
Posted 10/8/2007 2:47 PM by xThexGodfatherx Xanga True Member - reply

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I really enjoyed reading your blog!  You have a fun way of turning something miserable into a chuckle.  That's an admirable trait!
Posted 10/8/2007 3:35 PM by pitluvbooboo Xanga True Member - reply

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The last time I had poison ivy I tried some little homeopathic pills called.........Poison Ivy Pills. The active ingredient is..........poison ivy. They worked! I bought them at a drugstore, but health food stores carry them too. I think they work on the same theory that vaccinations do.
Posted 10/8/2007 4:17 PM by ata_grandma - reply

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I have "slapped" my mosquito bites before. RYC: I actually did smile in one picture. It looked ridiculous. Not sure if it was cuz it was such a fake smile or if it was cuz I was all beat up and smiling. Or both!! So I didn't post it. Boy, they do look like mug shots, don't they?!?!?!
Posted 10/8/2007 9:43 PM by Janunut06 - reply

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Oh boy, do I relate to this.  I get it very easily, too.  I've had some awful awful cases.  I haven't had a really bad case in a couple of years, mainly because I have an eagle eye for spotting it now, and I am a lot more careful than I used to be.  I also have gotten it from pets, and from touching my husband or stuff that has been in it.  One thing I found that works for me is to put Gold Bond powder on it.  It really does help the itching and helps dry it up.  I have never found any real magic treatment.  I did have some shots once in high school before I went to summer camp that must have worked.  So it was nice of your hubby to yell at ya!  :))
Posted 10/9/2007 7:17 AM by BluebirdChris Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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First the muggy sweat-inducing mornings, and now poison ivy! I think you should move to a desert climate.  I read your post with interest since I recently tried to help a friend through the worst case of poison ivy I'd ever seen.  She kept getting it on new parts of her body, even though she'd washed enough she and I were both certain there was no oil left.  Do you suppose the inflamation itself spreads it?  That you could get it right in the finger tracks....The most highly recommended natural remedy we found in one book was plantain.  Yes, the edible banana-like fruit/vegetable.  I guess you eat it. 

She had a massive systemic reaction in her skin to a spider bite a few years ago and I think she is spring-loaded now to react with deep hives and horrible itching to anything that sets her off, but here's a tip you may not have heard of...  I found this in a book on blood sugar...  Your tissues can be high histamine.  Anti histamines work in your nasal passages because they enter the blood stream, but in your tissues they won't be very effective.  You can lower your tissue histamine with methionine and um, I think it was zinc and vitamin C.  I loaned the book so I can't check for a while.  You could probably find a protocol online.  It is a gradual process of detox that takes about six months. 

I purchased a homeopathic form of poison ivy for the symptom of itching once. 

I like your words at the beginning.  I wish you would use lagninappe in a sentence, I'm still not certain about that one.  RYC:  Too bad about your nephews.  Are they young still?  With God's help I was able to greatly reduce the symptoms of my O.C.D.  I will finish the post with that story this week.

Posted 10/9/2007 8:11 AM by mamaglop - reply

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Wow~~my husband got it when he was working in the back country here....he was getting ready to climb a telephone pole when he was pulling all the "weeds" around the base of the pole away so he could secure his ladder....the lady of the property came running out and saying "did you know that was poison ivy".....duh....he had it all over his arms during one Thanksgiving......
Posted 10/9/2007 9:33 AM by SunnySusan Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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the moonshine theory makes sense to me.  When the world was a bit younger, folks used whisey to sterilize wounds and surgical equipment...

I myself remember a couple of times as a boy when I took the ivy, but I  haven't had it in years and years.

I saw that you visited the Campfire earlier, and I stopped by to welcome you and let you know you should feel free to return anytime.  I promise you won't catch the ivy at this Campfire ;).

Cowboy

Posted 10/9/2007 10:27 AM by cowboy_christian Xanga True Member - reply

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Meteorology Man gets a rash if the wind blows.  I can roll around in it~~ or probably put in my bath water and not be effected. 

I must admit~~ I might wilt if my man hollared at me.  lol  But for some reason~ I am able to laugh when it's your man hollaring at you~~ bcs he wants to protect you.  Or he doesn't want to deal with all the poison ivy drama~~ yet again  lol    Loved this story!!!  Tamy

Posted 10/9/2007 2:37 PM by justmomma - reply

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I bounced to your site from my friend Ozarksfarmgirl's, and just love this entry. Come by and visit me sometime!
Posted 10/9/2007 5:36 PM by anniemockingbird Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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I've had one very bad case of it...all along the left side of my body...from ankle to shoulder!  It started on my foot and spread like wild fire!  A doctor gave me a product called "Kenalog"...and it worked amazingly well, shrinking up those blisters, and relieving the horrible itch!  Now that was way back in the early 80's...so it may not even be around to use anymore.  I hope you didn't get too bad a case of it this time!  Bless you!  
Posted 10/10/2007 1:35 AM by Threads_of_Faith Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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"Bane" is on my list of super cool words that I totally need to use more often. :) So sorry poison ivy seems to be your bane! (Right now College Algebra is mine. *gag*)
Posted 10/10/2007 7:20 AM by BerlinettaGal - reply

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Praying he continues to keep you safe and that your poison ivy doesn't spread.

Heather

Posted 10/10/2007 9:43 AM by online now wondering04 Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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Hello and thanks for stopping by!    What a great read on Poison Ivy!!  My DH is soooo allegic..he's one of those that can catch it just being in the near vicinity!!  the last time he took our youngest DS and a bunch of his friends camping, he and his buddy he took along, got the worst case but the 5 boys got it too... they all had to go on steroids and antibiotics it was so bad.. and DH didn't or thought he didn't get anywhere near it... it took MONTHS to clear... and many diff meds for DH... when I have more time I'm gonna re-read your blog on your research!  gotta get off this thing... it was nice 'meeting' you too...   we have heard that DAWN dishwashing soap is the best for scrubbing up with when you get home...
Posted 10/10/2007 11:29 AM by Shutterbugd - reply

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